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Comentario de greengoo

These drop (rarely) from the final boss of "Old Hillsbrad - Escape from Durnhold Keep", the Epoch Hunter.

The Epoch Hunter is a large shadow dragon who summons random adds, and allows brief periods of rest in between waves. He goes down smooth, like a tall pint of Guiness.

Comentario de Bobbywich

These are not much better than Azureplate Greaves, a normal drop in Slave Pens.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24364

3 sockets, 10 spell damage, 1 mana/5, 200 armor, -5 strength between the two
You would think they would be a little better for a heroic, oh well.

Comentario de 28761

These are also comparable to the leggings I got in Shadow Lab (Normal Mode) off of Black Heart the Inciter. Ornate Leggings of the Venerated - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27893

Comentario de 32294

Wow! An epic plate drop that's *good* for a retribution paladin! Strength bonus and +spell damage.

Time to get me into heroic Old Durnholde...

Comentario de 43826

Are there any other pieces that match this graphic in shape and color?

Comentario de 13501

How do you think these stack up against merciless gladiator's for raiding?
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32042
obviously for pvp the gladiators are better because of the stam, but i think the sockets and mp5 make up for the loss of crit.

Comentario de 81477

I have these in real life.

Comentario de WolfBlitzer

These legs are currently one of 2 pieces of epic BC retribution-oriented plate that aren't either set gear or PvP gear. The other is https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32606

Comentario de Allakhazam

Normal mode ? lol ... It drops at HCM from Epoch Hunter.

Comentario de Allakhazam

This is the Epoch Hunter's Epic Drop piece on normal mode.

Comentario de Thottbot

Drops off the last boss in the Old Hillsbrand on Heroic.

Comentario de Thottbot

Slight upgrade from Ornate Leggings of the Venerated.

Comentario de Thottbot

Really nice of blizzard to make retri pallies more and more crit dependant, and then put no crit at all on any of the random retri drops.
G_G

Comentario de Thottbot

this is not only a retri drop!
got it on my holy pally. 800spelldmg holyshock ftw

Comentario de Thottbot

You COULD go for those leggings in mech; they do have str, sta and crit which are important stats.
What they don't have however is int.
A lot of retribution paladins make the mistake of gearing up in warrior gear and thereby gimping their mana pool. In pvp it wont matter that much, because you'll die around the same time your pool would have been empty anyway in most cases, unless you're really good (in which case you'll be going for/having arena gear anyway).
If you're a PvE ret paladin however, you'll make a grave mistake by gearing in warrior gear because you wont be able to keep your dps up with no mana pool to support it.
CAN you take one or two warrior items?
Of course you can. It wont break you to take the mecha legs... but it will break you if that's how you gear consistently.

Whether these or the mecha ones are best will depend entriely on what you have already. If you're already half a warrior, then I would go with these without a question.
If all your gear has int already, then by all means go for the mecha ones.

Comentario de Thottbot

THESE are leggings?

I thought they were okay at first because I thought they were a helm T_T

Comentario de Thottbot

The 28 spell damage is being replaced with an additional 12 strength in patch 2.4.

I'm not convinced 2.4 is going to make Retribution Paladins any more viable in PvE. Here is a suggestion. Put a talent deep in the Retribution tree that gives +5/10/15/20/25% intellect. Call it Improved Divine Intellect or something. Retribution Paladins are punished severely in stat budgets per the need for dps stats and intellect.

This is a game, it should make room for every spec to be viable in raids. For the idiotic, a Retribution Paladin serves very nicely grouped with a Protection Paladin to boost his TPS. Think of Void Reaver or Leotheras the Blind for example, or any fight where threat management is critical. Succesful raiding requires cooperation, something the trolls on these forums wouldn't know much about.

Comentario de Thottbot

Oh my god.

I stack intel, look at me, 8000 mana!

Yay, more crusader strikes! Oh noes, it only does 400 damage per hit :/

Where did I go wrong?

Maybe I should start stacking strength and only get intel where it will help, yeah! :D

Now I do 800 per hit and have 5000 mana! :D

Oh noes, less crusader strikes! :(

Oh, hehe, my auto-attack ALSO does more damage, and so does seal of command. And now hat I'm mana efficient, I don't need that much extra intel, I've shaved off hundreds of mana! :D

Hooray for me!

Okay. End of story. Stack strength and supplement with mana. The point is that all your attacks are based off of your damage. That means that if you do 1200 damage per hit, crusader strike will do 1320 and SoC will do 840 per hit, SoC ignoring armor, so in the end you will be doing MORE damage with less intel. That's the moral. If you want to learn it fine, and if you want to be stuck with intel and doing no damage, fine too.

Just learn the mechanics before you start saying what's what plz.

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