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Comentario de 10

Interestingly, this has less armor than the Jerkin of the Untamed Spirit (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28051), but more armor and stamina. Seeing as they increased the armor percentage increased by bear form, it looks like they're encouraging bear druids to stack more stamina and defense rather than just looking at pure armor, a concept that has been foreign to most bear tanks before the expansion.

Comentario de 18784

for pre-heroic dungeons armor is by far the most desirable stat for a tanking druid, followed by agility.

now once you start getting into the endgame you gotta worry about crushing blows and crits, so defense is nice for preventing burst damage and making life hard for your healer.

this would also be a nice piece when you are taking lots of magic damage due to the high stamina.

Comentario de 41459

new stats with 2.1 http://666kb.com/i/angpzph3uqyipcru3.jpg

Comentario de 60353

Armor is defintatly the most important stat for a pre raiding druid, but stamina comes in second. This is one of the best peices of Bear tanking gear because it can be socketed, allowing people to either add agility or defense.

Defense adds to your dodge % just a little bit but it also lowers the spike damage that you take, making you an easier tank to heal

Comentario de 65500

For those who are Skinners or buyers and not LWers and are looking to have a LWer make the Heavy Clefthoof set, the grand total needed for the entire set is:

80 Knothide Leather
94 Thick Clefthoof Leather
12 Primal Earth

I personally just bought the boots for 15g since it wasn't too much, but for the others I am going to get the leather myself and have a LWer make them and I thought I would share the needed mats with WowHead

Comentario de 24437

Warning: If you are not a leatherworker you will not get the +20 str bonus from the set.

Trust me I know! ... I'm not a leatherworker :)

Comentario de 82954

What gems would you guys suggest to add to this 3 piece set? My stamina and armor went up, but my agility droped pretty bad once I put these on.

Comentario de wingman

Which gems are bears putting in their clefthoof vest? Blue: Stamina, Yellow: Enduring?
And how far away is the next chest slot upgrade for bears?

Comentario de albedo

Which enchant to put on it ?

The +150 PV seems to be the best ....

BUT the Heavy Knothide Armor Kit https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34330 gives you 10 more stamina in bear form and costs a lot less.

Can someone explain and do the maths?

Comentario de Toldry

Heavy Clefthoof Vest
Enchant Chest - Defense
Enduring Talasite
Thick Dawnstone x 2

Thats 59 defense rating,
51 stamina,
4 dodge rating
and 500 armor.

Comentario de Allakhazam

290 Armor
+52 Stamina
Yellow Socket
Yellow Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Dodge Rating
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases defense rating by 28

Changes after patch. Blizzard is decreasing the stamina/defence and increasing the armor.

Comentario de Allakhazam

hi

I can make the entire set on euro hakkar / horde side..../w maji

Comentario de Allakhazam

The FINISHED product AFTER 2.3 now states

"Requires Leatherworking (350)"

I was already wearing the full set at the time of the patch, but since I am an Alchie/Herbie it is in red.

Can someone please confirm this in practice, I would hate to take them off and find I can not put them back on!

Comentario de Thottbot

Very nice tanking set and pretty easy to get

121 stamina (Which is 145 with HoTW)
86 +Defense rating

Armor is much like lvl 60 HWL-gear

And this is without any sockets :)

Comentario de Thottbot

But are the stats worth it for the 130 AC (read: 780 AC) that you would give up from not using the Jerkin?

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=55780

Comentario de Thottbot

This one or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31285/coselete-del-garfa ? talon has morea agi and armor.. *confused*

Comentario de Thottbot

The reason why this set is good is because of the amazing amounts of stamina and good amount of defence you can get from only 3 pieces.

Chest + 3x Enduring Talasites + 150 Health Enchant

+850 Health
+40 Def Rating
+4 Dodge

Legs + 3x Enduring Talasites + Clefthide Leg Armor

+900 Health
+46 Def Rating
+10 Agi
+4 Dodge

Boots + 2x Enduring Talasites + Fortitude Enchant

+610 Health
+32 Def Rating
+3 Dodge

Total:

2360 Health
118 Def Rating
10 Agi
11 Dodge

Thats not even considering HotW. Pretty good if you ask me. Only thing I don't like is its rather low armor, but that can be made up elsewhere.

Comentario de Thottbot

Will get more armor in next patch, and a bit less sta and def.

Heavy Clefthoof Chest:
500 Armor
45 Stamina
Yellow socket
Yellow socket
Blue socket
+4 dodge bonus
24 defense

Comentario de Thottbot

Base materials for the entire set
Base Materials
400Knothide Leather Scraps
120Mote of Earth
94Thick Clefthoof Leather
6Rune Thread

Comentario de Thottbot

I've got the full set of these.
I currently have 23.5k unbuffed, armor and 12.7k unbuffed health, 30% dodge and 415 defense. I Main Tank Kara currently
Buffed I'm at 24.5k armor, 16k health. If you tank. get this set and spend the money on the gems and enchants

I have the following GEMS
8 Defense x3
12 Stamina x4
4 hit/4 agi x1

Chest has +6 to all stats enchant
Pants have 30 stamina/10 agi armor kit
Boots have 12 agi enchant

Comentario de Thottbot

Before this turns into a Rogue Roast...

Does anyone else think that this set might be beneficial to Rogues as defensive gear against Raid Bosses and End Game Bosses if (and only if) they don't have their tier gear yet?

Yes I know a Rogue loses a ton of DPS by trading rogue gear for this set, but wouldn't that help in fight bosses that current 1 and 2 shot us Rogues? I feel that consistent DPS wouldn't cause as much aggro as burst DPS. Also the energy saved from not having to hit Feint after every high end crit seems like it could be used for attacks instead.

Think about it... Isn't a Rogue that is alive to the end of the boss and giving consistant under-the-radar DPS better than a Rogue dying while waiting for their Feint to cool down?

Please, before you tell me to "Learn to play your Rogue" or "Just quit now and go play Hello Kitty Island"...think about it and maybe provide some actual legitimate arguments in your flame.

Comentario de Thottbot

Does anyone know what level this pattern stops leveling leather workers up?

Comentario de Thottbot

Loumin - here's the logical, rational adult answer you're looking for. Plus, it's coming from a kitty Druid!

I wouldn't recommend this set for any Rogue...it's really not needed. I have it for my bear gear, since I'm asked to OT on some of the larger trash pulls in Kara, but I'd never waste my time in kitty form with it on.

For kitty, I've got 7924 HP and 32.39% Dodge self-buffed, typically a bit over 35% dodge when raid buffed. If I die, it's because I forget to mitigate DPS and pull aggro...you shouldn't have any issues with dying because of the AoE if your healers are on their game. Get a good tank, KLH Threat Meter for the entire group, be careful with your DPS, and you'll be fine.

Maiden's AoE is laughable, you should be standing behind anything that cleaves, and Netherspite's Breath never takes away more than about 40% of my life per phase. Shade of Aran deals a 10k AoE, yeah...but you're not supposed to be hit by it. Don't stand in the Blizzards, don't stay in the middle for Arcane Explosion, and don't run with people that move during Flame Wreath.

Hope that helps, send some ingame mail to Gnarth (Alliance side) on Malfurion if you have further questions...or if you want a set of these made anyway. Good luck!

Comentario de Thottbot

I was wondering if there is a a site or guide that lists some of the best pre Kara tanking armor. Besides these 3 I am having a hard time finding others.

Comentario de Thottbot

lol i had a good laugh at ya
a druid equiped with the gear u mentioned has mostly green-blue gear
i don't think he`ll be tanking gruul / mag with that gear
tho a druid with mostly blue-epic pieces will be able to MT gruul np till at least 16-18growths i don`t see the problem with druids tanking just as much as prot warriors?
you seem to have forgotten to mention the HP diffrence between you and the druid
i think it's quite large
yes u have block / parry + shield block (zomg gief) but u still can get 2 crushings fast in a row, which in later stages of gruul = dead (unless u got 20k+ hp ?)and i doubt u will be able to get the gear needed for that amount of hp
btw, dodge + parry + block + miss don't work the way u think, read a guide for explanations
the only thing that warriors have and druids lack is the shield block (+75%) and mby the shieldwall ability, tho it's got a nasty cd

Comentario de Thottbot

OKAY I HAVE A HUGELY IMPORTANT QUESTION someone please help me who is 350plus LW im a up and coming feral druid who needs to know what branch of LW i should go into to be able to make this chestpiece and other sets of gear... i have been told tribal but no one is 100% sure so i ask the lot of you for YOUR GUIDANCE someone please let me know if they are for sure certain.

Bulldurham

server: Proudmoore

Comentario de Thottbot

"The set gives these bonuses as more pieces are worn:
These bonuses only apply if the wearer has 350 Leatherworking."

You do not need leatherworking to wear this set, only to get the +20 strength set bonus.

Comentario de Thottbot

I see a few post asking if this a good chest piece or not ? Are people going to laugh at me ? What it boils down to is what chest piece in the game can actually replace this as a feral tank ? And to tell you the truth nothing can , maybe , just maybe it's worth trading in for a tier 5 Nodrassil Chest , but even then that's a stretch . Most of the tier gear is based upon dps cat form as opposed to tanking gear. You can easily hit 75% damage reduction on level 70 and below mobs and boss , and be uncrittable using this set and other choice pieces in your tanking closet . I for one have just recently replaced this chest piece , with the Vestments of Hibernation . But this is after tanking my way all the way through Karazan , every heroic , Tempest Keep , and SSc . And it was still hard to part with . Once you enter hyjal the armor class on this set and lack of other stats becomes noticable . But as far as defense goes , once you get rid of this set you have to sacrifice other choice pieces in order to gain back that defense that you lose. Such a replacing your Moroes Pocky Watch with a Scarab of Displacement (another piece that was hard to part with) . All in all , this set is an excellent choice for feral druids wanting to tank there way through pretty much everything . Not to mention the hot epic gems that will drop along the way in your travels . Add that on top of the ridiculous ease of obtainment , and the little bonus you get by being a leatherworker , and you have yourself a set of gear that will endure hard times , and take a beating . Get this and keep it .

Comentario de Thottbot

hey....from where i can get the Scroll

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