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WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Open World Farms, Data Collection and Pet Opportunities
06/04/2019 a las 13:54
WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up
Welcome to the 81st edition of the WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-up! In this edition we're looking at popular "Open World" Farms, Tools of the Trade Data Collection and Pet Trading Opportunities!
If you're new to this series or want to re-visit past posts, you can
check out the previous articles right here on wowhead.com
My name is
and I’m the lead moderator for the
and the accompanying
. I am also the Support/Community Manager & User Evangelist for
, the Auction House addon suite for World of Warcraft. I stream on Twitch for
and my focus is on mentoring and tutoring the WoW community in all things gold-making. I hope to cover and showcase some of the interesting topics, discussions, content and guides that have been going on over the last week in the gold making community. Some that you might have missed as a veteran gold maker, or you might be interested in checking out for the first time as a new or aspiring ‘goblin’.
The format will not be that of a traditional guide, but links to further reading with commentary and opinions of my own. I will be looking at the bigger picture, the decision making and thought processes in being a gold maker – rather than a step by step instructional list. As the saying goes, “give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime”.
Open World Farms
You're looking to get in to gold-making, you don't have much money to invest but you have some time to spare and don't feel like committing too much time to learning addons and markets or higher level financial thinking. Maybe you want to catch up on a favourite TV show or netflix series while you make a little side income playing WoW. Farming might be ideal for you!
There are various types of farming, including solo and group farms, loot and material farms, or instanced and non-instanced farms which is what today's topic is about. When it comes to instanced farming, you're usually capped at how many instances you can enter per hour. Whether it's a dungeon or a raid, you can only enter 10 instances in a 60 minute window after zoning in to the first one. Quite often, some of the dungeons or raids you'd farm can be completed in a very short space of time meaning there'll be a point where you can no longer continue a farm that requires a zone 'reset' or move on to somewhere else.
"Open world" farms are named as such because you don't need to enter an instance to do the farm, they're often just a location in a specific expansion continent that has been proven to be ideal to acquire certain things because of high drop rates, faster respawn times or efficiency in farm routing. This could be for gathering materials with Herbalism or Mining, or it can be farming for other specific crafting reagents such as a
or even BoE gear, mounts or toys. A cross-over here is the idea that these can be solo farms, i.e you can do them alone, or you can form a group of 5 (or more) to make certain farms more efficient while killing more mobs to be able to loot more mobs.
There are no pre-requisites to open world farms, no reputations, attunements or end-game gear which makes it very easily accessible to anyone looking to diversify or start gold-making. However, these kinds of gold-making strategies are probably the most server dependent when it comes to comparing or replicating results seen by other community goblins or content creators. 'Your mileage may vary' is truest for farming, as it will come down to both yourself in terms of how much time you are willing or wanting to put in to farming and your realm economy. You could spend X amount of time on Y realm to get Z gold, when someone else spends A amount of time on B realm and get C gold. All three parts of this equation are variable so understanding that when making plans or decisions on what to farm is important.
So, what are some of the communities favourites?
/u/ModestMillions posed the question and shared the first in their YouTube series this week
Question: What are your favorite open world farms from classic to current content that always seem to draw you back in?
I would have to say that two old open world farms that are still to this day my favorite farms would be the Wetlands
Vástago carmesí diminuto
farm and the Burning Steppes. The variety of transmog , world drops and materials make these spots great for starting farmers and old alike trying to fill up the AH with items.
This kind of open world farm is probably the text-book example of a 'good farm'. It's done mostly for the Crimson Whelpling pet drop, but you get a lot of other things as you're farming such as materials and transmog. If you don't get the primary pet item you're still obtaining other items that have a value as you're going.
/u/Yanrogue chipped in with some other spots to check out
Eastern Kingdoms: Oozling for
in Swamp of Sorrows, do this on a herbalist to get extra income, it is an easy circle route.
farming outside of Silvermoon for the holiday spike, easy to do on low level toons to stock up on for christmas between queues.
Dados de trol desgastados
farming beside the Argent Tournament or Mining in Wintergrasp for
Mena de titanio
Mena de saronita
and transmute it.
Kalimdor: Bottom of Winterspring killing bears for
Cuero de oso de guerra
Pandaria: Townlong steppe rares on an alt for the rare drops especially the
Gran bolsa de suministros Zandalari
. Isle of giants- the warbringer on the boat. great for troll xmog, motes, pets, just great when not camped by others.
Draenor: Fur Trapping in Nagrand , the
sell like hotcakes and super easy mindless farm for alts. Also the 3 crystal pets are near the wolves of this farm.
Outlands: Skettis, killing the
Furibundo de bosque juragarra
on a herbalist to herb them for motes and herbs. Also the
Polvo de las Sombras
sells for people doing the rep grind.
That's some of my outdoor non instance farms that I don't mind sharing.
Not only are some of these easily executed farms, but they're diverse across different expansion, item type and value. /u/Yanrogue even says that's only some of the farms they participate in!
What are some of your favourite open world farms? Do you prefer to farm solo or in a group? If you try any of the farms mentioned, leave a comment with your results!
It's been a couple of weeks now since the roll out of patch 8.1.5 and there has been a lot of discussion on how much value the profession Tools of the Trade bring to the table. This time we're going to look at the numbers specifically for Alchemy and Enchanting, which are still way ahead of the pack in terms of gold-making potential.
First of all, disenchanting a crafted stock of tailoring bracers with
Vara encantadora de Iwen
/u/blazechoo shared some stats on what they got out of it
I crafted 1,632
Brazales de lino espuma de marea
. Scrapped the green ones and DEd the blue ones. Unfortunately I did not record how many blues I got.
From the blue bracers I got 378 x
, 528 x
and 61 x
I then scrapped the green bracers and got 236 x
, 2069 x
Lino espuma de marea
and 2120 x
Hilo de nailon
I crafted epic 310 bracers with the
, and disenchanted them. The result from that session was 0 x
, 259 x
and 294 x
To sum it up - 1,632 bracers gave me:
787 x Umbra Shards
/u/Dekar56 shared some tips on optimising this process, dubbed the Expulsom/BFA/Bracer Shuffle:
Make sure you have the crafting glove enchant (usually a few gold at most)
Encantar guantes: artesanía de Kul Tiras
, to cut the crafting time down to 1 sec per. You can craft 100 or 10000 at a time, any excess get sent to your mail. Just have to move/turn your character every ~10 mins to keep from afk'ing out of the game. Get the
add on for scrapping, just have to hit 1 keybind every ~20 seconds.
Set up a mailing operation to send the blues to your enchanter to DE and the greens to your scrap toon so all you have to do with excess in mail is empty mail, hit one button to send blues/greens to specific toons and repeat until your mail is empty.
/u/blazechoo didn't stop there, and decided to follow up with data on Alchemy crafts
, using the buff from
Poción de prosperidad de Silas
, the transmuted form of
Esfera de transmutación de Silas
I crafted only
Poción de batalla de intelecto
and here are the results:
I had mats for 1,560 potions. In the first 10 minute window I got 783 pots. In the second 10 minute window I got 863 pots. In the third 10 minute window I got 823 pots
At the end I had mats for 163 more potions, but the expired. So according to my math I used the mats for 1397 potions and I got 2469! This equals 1.767 proc rate when having the buff as opposed to having 1.4-1.41 without it.
This is a pretty decent proc rate that could result in nice profits depending on your server economy. The whole process took exactly an hour, in which I basically had to click a button 6 times - 3 for getting the buff and 3 for clicking Craft all. I haven't checked the proc rate when crafting flasks, but I guess it would be the same. I decided to craft pots instead of flasks due to the fact that pots move faster than flasks, but you should have a higher profit margin if you craft flasks instead.
The number 1.75 has been banded around the community a bit, and I believe that's what most are using as a conservative proc rate for crafting with rank 3 and the tool of the trade buff. It may be 1.76 but we'd need a much larger sample size to refine the numbers to that degree. This confirms that it's quite essential to have both of this extra chances at procs in order to participate in the market competitively,
as /u/Korzag explains
I'm more an observer on this sub than a contributor, but I have noticed a decline in potion prices since tools of the trade came out. Last night picked up 40 int pots at about 160g each, when they typically sat around 400g before the item came out. Of course this is anecdotal, and I also bought the potions at a prime time (they're now back to up to around 250g each, and I expect they'll go higher as folks start raiding tonight).
The interesting thing to me is that on my server,
Polen de sirena
is currently selling at 19.44g each, and
is at 17.94g each. Raw mats values these potions at 337.92g, and factoring in your findings of 1.767 proc rate, that values each potion around 191.24g So if pots are around 25g each right now, that gives each potion a 59g/potion profit. Probably the first time I've ran the numbers and actually seen alchemy being profitable.
I'm not exactly sure which numbers /u/Korzag is looking at here, whether it's minimum buyout or market value etc, but it's also worth keeping in mind that if you're not going for absolute volume and would rather not have to babysit your auctions with aggressive relisting - you can simply 'overcut' with different stack sizes on the Auction House. Your stack of 5 flasks or potions doesn't have to undercut the cheapest stack of 1, so you can charge a little bit more for those if the market allows for it and increase your margins slightly. This is a methodology I've explained many times, but it's such an easy concept and strategy that applies to crafted and farmed goods that can be sold in stacks that it's well worth repeating.
Do you have these two Tools of the Trade? If not, will you get them now that you have some more data behind them? How often do you restock your crafted auctions?
Pet Trading Opportunities
One of the great things about pets is that you can cage them up to your pet journal and log in to another completely different realm to un-cage it to sell on the Auction House or direct to other players. If you're struggling to sell your stock of pets on your home server, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from collecting them all up to go on an adventure and offer them for sale somewhere else. The next step for this is to start buying and selling pets between servers at a grander scale, identifying servers that you can obtain cheap popular or desirable pets and then identifying the servers you can sell them at a profit is an ultimate end-game for the pet trading goblin or gold-maker.
This is especially beneficial if your primary objective is just to make gold for WoW tokens or for Blizzard Balance, because it doesn't really matter where you gold is being made or where it is currently held on different servers. If you're not looking to funnel revenue in to primary raiding or end-game characters, pet trading might be ideal for you.
One of the questions that comes up a lot regarding pets, is whether it's worth leveling a pet to 25 before selling it. There was an opportunity this week to very easily level pets given the alignment of the Pet Battle bonus event and the Garrison daily pet quest that allowed for 2-battle leveling from 1-25, dubbed 'Super Squirt Day'. Trusted Goblin
prepared an evergreen video on how this works:
The next Super Squirt Day for US realms will be May 24th 2019, for the EU region there won't be another one for 6 months or more.
/u/Vhalerun explains some nuance to the trading of level 25 pets
, in answer to a
thread posted by /u/MiaushiGuagu
Super Squirt: The fastest team is 1:25 minutes. But this uses Widget, which can only be gotten on Halloween. Yes, Boneshard uses fewer turns but his animation is so long that it drags out the time.
Super Squirt is not the sole repeatable pet trainer. Every Family Familiar +1 trainer in Legion can also be used during Pet Week to hyper lvl pets. That has caused a dip in the market for lvl 25 pets. Every pet forum has this posted, That's why they take longer to sell. However! Blizzard nerfed ALL the BFA trainers recently so they can't anymore. It stands to reason they forgot That Other Expansion (again) and they'll nerf it soon enough.
Pet selling has suffered from Legion. Without Casuals getting easy gold, it's harder to flip pets for good profit. That and sites like this have increased competition. Consider your time spent vrs profit earned. Is spending all day lvling pets for 3k worth your time?
It used to be lvling vrs Squirt was decent character exp, I hear this was removed recently (unconfirmed). I can confirm Legion trainers give 2% per fight. (rested, 113, no heirlooms, no buffs)
You also need a crap ton of pet bandages to do this effectively outside the garrision.
Personally, I sell lvl 25 pets. But, my reasons are as follows:
Most are acquired during Transmog runs, not low drop rares, they are just something I pick up
I am lazy about listing them and I'm not trying to make fast sales. I don't mind if they take longer to sell because I don't want to juggle with undercutters selling lvl 1 pets. Especially with the web AH removed.
I like lazily leveling an alt in my garrison Dalaran while watching Netflix via pet battles. Or I can run a few WoD/MoP trainers while cooking stuff. I can't walk away from a hyper farm, I can walk away from a pet trainer. But I do pay an opportunity price for that. It would probably be more lucrative to just farm islands really.
If I had a lot of duplicates, rares, fewer alts or more time to juggle the AH, I wouldn't bother.
These reasons line up with the play-style and preferences of /u/Vhalerun, what works for you and what you will enjoy may very well be different so applying your philosophies and mindset to this kind of question you can judge for yourself whether it makes sense for you.
Do you battle or trade pets? Have you ever traded cross-server to make more gold? What's your favourite personal pet?
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