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Comentario de 11596

We had trouble with this fight but we worked out a strat like Firemaw. Here are his skills firstly though.

- Sacrifice: Teleports a random member to the platform he starts on. Ticks for a percentage of your health. Will reduce you to about 8% if you are at full health. When he starts casting this, he dumps all aggro. The tank will have to pick it up right after it finishes casting. Also, when he finishes sacrificing someone, he enrages for several seconds.
*NOTE* He doesn't sacrifice anyone out of his line of sight, or the MT

- Fire Pulse: Yells something and sends out a few pulses of fire like Baron Geddon. Ticks for about 800-1k in fire damage.

The Strat -
We tanked him in the doorway leading into the Satyr area. It was a bit like Chromag/Firemaw. We had the tank standing in the doorway, and the healers in line of sight of the tank, but not Thorngrin. We then had the dps running out of los whenever he started casting sacrifice. Doing it this way, no one ever got sacrificed and he never enraged.

Comentario de 11596

Hmm, it might have been because we had a hunter mis-direct pull Thorngrin to the tank, so that he always had aggro.

Comentario de 16385

Just to let you know, Right after this guy there is 2 or 3 groups of stealthed demons, and in the next hallway thing the mobs do a powerfull aoe that works like ghoul posion from scholo, but tics for like 1.2k

Comentario de 3201

It was my first time in Botanica. We had our ranged classes on the above ledge near the ramp. Our druid tank, hunter and rogue died when the boss was at about 50%. I (warlock) managed to dot-kite him to death with the help of a druid healer. I just jumped down from the ledge when the boss was coming closer and ran to the further ramp and then back to the ledge and repeated untill the boss was dead. The boss healed himself a bit by sacrificing the druid sometimes but it was easily over dps'ed.

Comentario de laxer0

Lock, Feral Druid, Mage, Pally, Warrior

tanked near the ramp, ranged dps up on the ramp, out of his fire aoe. fire resist aura. and dpsed him down, healer must keep everyone near 90% or so, because when sacrificed the dot will do 7-8k . When random player is sacrifced he gains life back, not much but still annoying.

Comentario de 9857

Tank him in the middle of the room with the party on the altar. Have tank run out of aoe back towards group, and heal the guy who gets sacrificed. Simple fight, has little hp, dies in a minute.

Comentario de 25427

We tried stayclean's tac, but didnt work. I Misdirected my agro on tank, everyone stood in doorway but we got sacrificed anyway.

The best is to fight downstairs.

Comentario de Optional

70 hunter - I solod this guy from 40% and down, kited hi maround the entire instance. i could solo. of course, if the instance was clear. :)

he has no anti-kite spells or abilities, push comes to shove, kite him

Comentario de Linus

Heroic:
Same abilities, Fire Pulse is considerably stronger. Most important change is that he resets his aggro list the moment he sacrifices someone.

Comentario de Fuzoya

Hm, this guy is really tricky on heroic.
How much Hp/armor does the tank need?
That would be of great help if anyone had a clue :)
When the boss enraged he hitted around 4500 on our warriortank once a second , we had no chance of healing him at all.

I read the other comments , and i got a question as well , when do you know when he sacrifices?

My party was Warrior-prot , feral-druid , paladin-holy , priest-shadow and mage-fire.

We did not manage to kill this boss.

Comentario de 33158

Anyone else find this guy's name hilarious?

"Hi, I'm Thorngrin the Tender, and this is my friend Sensitive Sam."

Comentario de 40525

Here's a really useful bit of information. Warriors can reflect his Sacrifice with Shield Reflect. It saves you a lot of health. However, he still drops aggro, so everyone has to stop attacking until the tank can get aggro back.

Comentario de 6514

Mages can iceblock out of sac, at least on normal mode.
If you have a shaman get them to throw an elemental into the fight, as he will sac them instead sometimes.

Comentario de Izzmo

Pretty simple boss with a good group. Just watch out, he "sacrifices" people, and it will hurt them. He also does an AoE (Fire) that does around 600 dmg per tick. Reletively easy, just a tank and spank.

Comentario de Gutts

does draining out his mana force him to stop sacrficing?

Comentario de radeox

On heroic:
- A mage
- A shadow priest
- A holy priest
- A feral druid
- A warlock

We did not manage to kill the boss, we skipped this and went to last boss.

Comentario de Kathucka

Hunters should drop a snake trap as often as they can on this. There's a good chance that he'll sacrifice a snake instead of a player.

Comentario de Zeneva

My group was awesome..
We got him down to 16% before he sacrificed a player and we also forgotten to clear the rogues b4 we start the fight..infact hes easy..wif great DPS hes a goner

Comentario de 69401

Heroic: Downed him last night first try with this setup
Prot Warrior
Resto Shaman
Fire/Arcane Mage
Shadow Priest
Hunter (don't remember spec)

A lot of range dps helps on Thorngrin, and the shaman kept fire resist totem up to help with hellfires. On heroic, definitely have tank stay in the hellfire to taunt or Shield Slam when he frenzies or he will 2 shot a squishy. Our priest went hybrid for this fight and helped to heal through hellfire, he doesn't take a ton of dps so might wanna try this if you have an offhealer.

Comentario de Rainfall

As of current PTR patchnotes he's getting a bit nerfed in 2.2:

* The time between casting of Thorgrin the Tender's Hellfire has been increased.
* The time between casting of Thorgrin the Tender's Sacrifice has been increased in Heroic Mode.
* Thorgrin the Tender's Enrage ability now increases his melee damage by 75% instead of 110%.

Comentario de 83199

I would have to say this fight is pretty easy seeing as what happened to my group ( Non heroic). Me Afflic warlock, rogue, warrior, priest and paladin tanking. I pulled aggro straight away=/ and died then the rogue died about 10 seconds later from hellfire to sacrifice so it left the tank and healer. They both were hit by hellfire and the priest was even sacrificed but they still killed him. He dropped Arcane Netherband.

Comentario de 43910

This guy has the coolest voice ever!

Comentario de gnidleif

Maybe I was just lucky or something but I am a recently dinged level 70 hunter, with some greens and two gladiator parts and the rest random blues from quests and such.

I still got into a group for heroic Botanica, and when we got to this boss our tank had some major problems and the rest of my group wiped at 20%, so I started kiting ( I used Aspect of the Cheetah ) him up the sides of the stairs and jumped down so he would have to run around down and up the stairs to get to me.

After like 2 minutes or so of kiting I finally killed him and I got to be the hero of the group for 5 minutes, but that doesn't matter.

Things I found out about this was that :
1. He never did his Sacrifice on me while I was alone.
2. If number one means that he doesnt do it ever while you do this encounter alone, then that means that this boss is the easiest boss to solo that I've heard off.

Just keep out of range and shoot him like normal when you kite, keep serpent sting on.

Comentario de Judgebob

Just did a Botanica run on heroic not too long ago, though most told me this was the hardest fight there, I found it no problem when I tanked it as a Prot pally, I did this as my first heroic run on this character and breezed through it easy, to tank this boss as a prot pally, start off as usual (AVW and AS) then stack seal of vengeance on him, if he runs to another player, taunt him off, if he sacrifices you, just bubble cancel bubble and taunt.

Also, the best strat I have done (done this many a times on regular) is to hold him in front of his altar just out of range of hellfire and keep dragging him back there whenever he runs off, best also to BOP the person when they get sacrificed (you should know that).

And as a reminder to prot pally's, hes a demon and is susceptible to exorcism and holy wrath, though most might not take full use of holy wrath, its a nice addition when you time it right to hit him right after hellfire.

Comentario de 141912

We just had a warlock solo this guy on Heroic. Affliction specced, he just kept jumping from the ledge near the back of the room to and from the box below. This forces Thorngrin to run all the way back and around to try to attack the lock. Dot and repeat jumping. took a couple of minutes and he was dead. If having trouble 5 manning him and u got a lock in the group give it a try lol.

Comentario de 61664

You can't pvp trinket out of the sacrifice, but it still uses the cooldown =[

Comentario de Thottbot

This boss has a random 'Sacrifice' which will place the person on a pedestal, which will kill the person is their below 85% health. Casting a Priest's Power Word: Shield will absorb the damage. Also this Boss has an AoE, Hellfire, Run out of this, it will kill you.

Comentario de Thottbot

MY group had alot fo trouble on this guy... i dont know how to beat him. we had a priest and druid healing me... a lock and a rogue DPSing. when i did wat others suggested to run out of fire, i lost aggro too much and it was hard to get it back. then we tried to just stick it out and i didnt move. i just died really quickly again... i couldnt tell if the healers werent doing well or nething... need a strat.

Comentario de Thottbot

We had me as Lock, holy pally healing, feral druid tanking, rogue and hunter.

Our start was to nuke hard, druid in bear form could stay in the hellfire, while pally healed, only rogue ran out. This way the druid kept its agro. Rogue came back hitting him after the hellfire.

About sacrifice. Need to keep all party members in full health, use potions, healthstones or even bandages if needed, even my wimpy lock survived the sacrifice, thanks to keeping myself in full health. And its relatively easy when the tank could keep his agro.

Comentario de Thottbot

enslave the stealthed mobs near him before the fight, they hit stupidly hard. My party had 2 warlocks the time we did it, it went down in 30 secs or so, only used sacrifice once

Comentario de Thottbot

Thorngrin is a goat, really....

I usually enslave a satyr before the boss fight and use it against the boss. Those satyrs have much better dps than any of my pets (I am a destruction specced warlock, no felguard).

Specialties:
a) summons random party membr to be sacrificed, that guy looses health for a few seconds. Then he can rejoin the fight
b) hell fire aoe around the boss.

Simple strategy:

1) clear the room, make sure you get the 4 rogue satyrs which are lurking on the other side of the boss's room, so that you dont get any unpleasant surprises.

2) Get the tank to bring the boss to the center of the room, he will summon one person at his altar to sacrifice. He actually summoned me once, a clothie.. no problems, just used a master healthstone. Didnt even need a heal. If boss AoE's near the summoned person who is being sacrificed, then that poor guy has to face the damage from sacrifice and the Boss AoE. So better to keep the boss at the center of the room, away from altar.

When you get summoned, keep an eye on your health, good idea to get some heals, but not really required. The tank holds the boss at the center of the room. Everyone else... at a distance...use ranged dps to bring him down.

He has "Hell fire" a lock style AoE. Now the thing about Hellfire is...its concentrated around the caster. So if you keep your distance, you are fine.

Dps him down. We usually kill him so fast, that, we havent seen more than one person getting summoned to the altar to be sacrificed. So I dont know if he could summon more than once.

He drops a nice ring for casters, +18 stamina and intellect, and + to spell damage. Great for soloing.

Easy peasy.

Kaushik
Lvl 70 Human Warlock,
GM of KingTiger Guild,
Gnomeregan Server.

Comentario de Thottbot

this guy is hard..hard like Ragnaros. He dident give me the time to run away form his Hellfire :S :S He cast it in like 0000.1sec :S

Comentario de Thottbot

GG if he summons healer to alter first.
Has happened to use four times in a row now. /cry

Comentario de Thottbot

We had all sorts of problems with this dude last night. I don't know if it was the group assembled or just bad luck. We finally just ended up skipping him. Had a prot warrior, fury warrior, mage, hunter and myself as a druid healer. I read a few strats that said to hide behind the boxes and stay out of his sight so that he wouldn't summon me to alter, but it never worked he only sac'd me lol. We wiped 4 times and then went to Warp Splinter and that is another story.

Comentario de Thottbot

Ran him in Heroic last night with about the same group as above....prot warrior, fury warrior, rogue, mage, paladin. He kept grabbing the paladin for sacrifices which resulted in a wipe. The mage and warrior kept pulling aggro, along with the paladin.

Prot warrior wore FR gear and stayed in during hellfire to better maintain aggro, but still had trouble.

I think this boss either requires almost all casters , a warlock, or two healers. With all casters, the boss can be pulled near the ledge and no one will be sacrificed. With a lock, one of the demons can be used to tank or off-tank the boss...and possibly sacrificed.

I also wonder if the prot warrior should switch to dps gear and just wail on him since the boss is a squishy.

Comentario de Thottbot

Erm He was soooo easy ! whe were all at 75 % mana when he died .... my suggestion is just nuke him ? so easy boss i think it is the easiest one i've ever saw :/

Centrino lvl 70 Feral Druid Bladefist

Comentario de Thottbot

I've ran heroic botanica twice, and this guy has been bloody IMPOSSIBLE with both groups. First time we had a shammy healing so we just chalked it up to maybe needing a priest for shields and renews, but second group even with a prot warrior tanking and a holy priest healing, we still got owned repeatedly. Just a note, the satyrs in his room are immune to enslave on heroic and he does wipe aggro on hellfires, which is EXTREMELY annoying for an affliction warlock such as myself. Most of my DPS on long fights relies on having all of my dots up, so as you can imagine it's annoying when he wipes aggro and I'm the first one to get it when all my dots tick.

Got him down to 30 percent with both groups, but for some reason people would rather wipe four or five times and give up than wipe six or seven times and actually kill it. Since I used to be a hardcore raider, of course I was pushing for everyone to keep trying because the most satisfying thing for me is to finally kill a boss after wiping multiple times trying to figure it out.

Comentario de Thottbot

This encounter is very hard on Heroic. We ran with a Druid tank, druid healer, 2 Mages and a hunter and got owned numerous times.

The fight is a much faster pace than normal, he almost has someone on sacrifice all the time and when he hellfires, he does it for however long he wants to ... can be 1 second or can be 5 seconds. Wipes agro on the hellfire which made the fight rediculous to tank. Druid tank charged after hellfires but he just kept going at the other people in the group. Also, his enrage occurs randomly through-out the fight, not at 20% like normal mode.

I think FR on the tank may be the way to go. Tank stays in the hellfire while the rest of the group cease dps.

There seems to be a lack of information on this boss on heroic so a summary of his skills are:

Normal melee: 1.2k-1.5k on plate per hit
Hellfire: Around 2.5k per tick
Enraged melee: Bumps melee up by 110% to around 2.5k per hit at a very fast attack speed (non-crit on 26k bear armor)
Sacrifice: Sacrifices one player throughout the encounter leeching about 85% of the players life

All other bosses we 1-shotted in here but not this guy.

Comentario de Thottbot

I just noticed that this guy only drops PVP gear. :P

Comentario de Thottbot

This boss was very easy for my group.

70 Rogue
70 Feral Druid (me)
70 Holy Pally
70 Mage
70 Shadow Priest

We had me tanking him by the left pillar and once he did his fire AOE we ran out. Pally healed us. Then the pally got sacrificed he bubbled out of it. And ya rince repeat. To bad my staff didn't drop though :(

Comentario de Thottbot

When only 1 is in combat with this guy, he won't use sacrifice, and you can use some places close to the wall to jump from while he is after you, so ever tried using only 1 person with ranged attacks? We got wiped once fighting him, except the pala, he used this to keep this boss busy till everyone was back, so we could kill him with only 15% health left, was quite usefull. Maybe doesn't work in Heroic, never tried.

Comentario de Thottbot

I think this boss is meant to be skipped in heroic....kinda like the second boss in heroic mechanar

yea....they are impossible...

Comentario de Thottbot

I was able to do it on heroic we had a hunter mage (frost), prot pally, arms warrior, and holy pally (meh). What we did basically was ran away when hellfired and then everyone stopped dpsing for 5 sec while pally quickly built aggro. he and i used bop to help wipe aggro on warrior and mage after he stealthed. Just have everyone either wipe aggro or stop dpsing right before the hellfire. The sacrifices wernt a big deal cuz he kept getting the hunter and got me once (Divine sheild out of). Guy isnt too hard hes rather squishy u just gotta follow strict stuff.

Comentario de Thottbot

Ok, I pretty much soloed this guy as an elem shaman, and on heroic no less. Both the tank and healer were dead when he had 71% life left. I had 2 locks helping, but they were geting sacrificed and healing themselves most of the time.
Trick is to keep the guy running up the ramp and onto the ledge, then drop down and repeat. He will do his AoE fire about half way up/down the ramp, just keep pounding him with ranged attacks until he gets right to ya, then run back up or down. The most important part is to keep him focused on a fast and hard hitting ranged attacker, and keep him moving. Also, when he does his AoE fire, so long as u are out of range or on a different elevation level, u will take 0 damage. Just have to pray for those being sacrifised.
Next time I face him, I will try having the rest of the party stay in the previous room, and drop this guy start to finish myself. Shaman FTW!

Comentario de Thottbot

A group I got today finished this guy easy first try. It was a mage, hunter, feral druid (me), rogue, and a holy priest. Basically every time he hellfired we ran away, then I would charge in and retake aggro. As far as sacrificing goes, we had a holy priest, need i say more?

Comentario de Thottbot

1 shotted this guy today.

Prot Warrior
2 mages (1 arcane/frost, other arcane/fire)
1 hunter (BM)
1 holy priest

We burned this guy down really fast, i was actually laughing when we were fighting. I (fire mage) was the only one to get sacrifised, and i didnt even need heals for it, i had kept Mana sheild up most of the fight.

Dropped the Dagger of Solstice

Comentario de Thottbot

INTERUPT his hellfire
just kick or bash him when he hellfires = easy mode

Comentario de Thottbot

Healing with my Holy paladin trying to get the shield and d3 shoulders for my prot/farming gear. Easy boss. If you have a lock get him out with fire shield, and blood pact. Keep everybody topped off and give a quick heal to sacrificed person. If your tank has more than 12k hp let him stay in the fire he should die to quick. but then again when a i ran i had a hunter who was geared for ssc, tk against people in kara gear and got 50% of damage. so it was quite easy

Comentario de Thottbot

Tanked this on heroic tonight (prot warrior). My group was holy priest, lock, Arcane Mage, hunter (sry not sure of everyone's specs). We wiped on him twice, but when the mage had to go we replaced him with another lock, and we downed Thorngrin right away. Aggro was a real problem but we were very dps heavy. Run out of the aoe, charge back, nuke.

Comentario de Allakhazam

He does a hellfire pulse that hurts. Move out and wait until he finishes. (Think of Baron Geddon's pulses)

Now the trick to this fight, he will randomly choose a party member to "sacrifice" and teleports you to his pedestal it does a set amount of damage that will kill you if you're not above 85%. The reason this makes the makes the fight difficult is that who ever gets sacrificed is "Stunned" meaning, if a healer gets sacrificed, he/she can't heal. Same with the tank, he will lose aggro and then the boss will run around killing your party. Paladins can bubble out of it, assuming you have one in your group.

If you have 2 healers/2 tanks this fight is easy, but that relies on having to go through it before to learn that you need a certain make up for a 5 man. Unless you and your party like to risk the probability of who gets sacrificed.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Also, I noticed that the boss goes through a brief enrage after Sacrifice completes. It's not long, but he hits like a truck during that period, so your healer should be ready.

Comentario de Allakhazam

With an all melee group this guy is near impossible less you have a decent stradegy i havent tried this myself my group wasnt up for it but if you can pull him to the top of that ramp and have all your melee face near the ledge when he uses that aoe Hellfire move you can jump down hopefully that will allow your melee to avoid maxium damage from the aoe and help your healer to conserve mana otherwise they have to heal the sacrificed victim and whoever was hand-hand combat with this guy.

can someone tell me if this works

and if you got 2range ppl in your group your set if you have a tank and a healer your tank doesnt even have to back out of the hellfire if you got a decent healer and your range can continue to attack while the aoe is activated

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