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Comentario de darkarsenic

Awesome rogue skill that can be used both offensively or defensively. You can vanish and run or regen energy or you can vanish and hit another opener (such as Cheap shot for some combo points and a quick stun). A skilled rogue should vanish and hit the opener in between DoT ticks (or you can put vanish on your main bar and a skill such as Cheap Shot under it on the stealth bar). Make sure if your going to run away is to not vanish on top of the thing your attacking or it'll see through your stealth.

Comentario de 6984

There are so many uses to this, and every rogue should learn how to use this well.
Useful in WSG when being Flag Carrier and under pressure - note that you drop the flag once vanished however, and you have to pick it up again fast. Confuses the enemy, giving you just a few more seconds of life, the difference between winning and losing!

Comentario de 7043

Vanish + Sprint + Evasion + 1337 Ninja Skills = Soloing many bosses for loot in lower dungeons.

Comentario de Burner

Just thought I'd mention that in addition to breaking movement imparing effects, vanish also:
- Removes Hunter's Mark.
- Is the only way to stop a pet from attacking you (even if stealthed) that's been ordered by its master to attack, unless you get out of range of course.
- Can be used to avoid both physical or magical damage if timed properly.
- Resets aggro for PvE encounters.
Vanish has also had a long history of being considered buggy/broken, which is somewhat debatable. In the past, there have been bugs where rogues would vanish and a person autoattacking would hit them right back out of stealth or a spell would still hit when it should have been resisted. However, it appears that these bugs have been fixed in previous patches.

Comentario de Mikezila

Vanish temporarily makes your Stealth strength astronomical, so even if you're up against a 60 that wants your blood, Vanish+Sprint can let you get away unseen in most cases.

Just make sure to get far enough away so that when you lose the Vanish buff they don't see you.

Comentario de mikejr

This is a Rogues "Get Out of Jail Free" card, and can be used in a manner similar to the Hunter's Feign Death.

Best saved as an emergency out, it' also useful for thinning the crowd.

For instance, a quest Boss with two adds:
Sap one of the adds, engage the others. You should be able to kill one and as soon as the sap wears off, vanish, bandage, and repeat thereby taking three enemies solo.

Comentario de Mikezila

This also boosts your Stealth for a short period of time, letting you sneak past guards and players that would otherwise see you.

Comentario de 24962

This is a very helpful skill but you may want to watch out, it won't remove Damage over Time's DOTS, Poisons, etc. So if anything breaks you out of stealth normally, then it will break you out of vanish. Although Vanish does destroy Hunters Mark.

BY THE WAY, THIS SKILL IS BROKEN. LOOK AT MY SCREENSHOT.

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Comentario de HighFive

Taken from Some German WoW site.
I am not German; I used Google's German-to-English Translator. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Stealth detection only improves your ability to see rogues that are within the 270° in front of you. It has no effect of the 90° "blind zone" behind you. You will only see stealthed characters behind you if they come within 2 yards, but they can use their melee abilities from as far as 5 yards.

Experiments show that when - = 0 you will detect enemies as close as ~6.5 yards range,

when - = 10 - ~10 yards

and when - = 20 - ~13 yards.

This range is not affected by the stealthed target moving or staying still.

Comentario de 68773

Man this move is so broken. hat really pisses me off about it is that it removes hunter's mark. It probably removes flare too.

Comentario de Shaan

After 3 years of "this is working as intended", "vanish is fine, l2p" from devs...

2.2 patch notes, hidden in the "bug fixes", all down below the notes :

Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish.

Yay ! o/

Comentario de 36395

Preperation is a great companion-ability to Vanish, especially in PvP. Consider this scenario:

You are about to lose to a mage...
1. Pop Vanish
2. Oops! Mage AoEs you
3. Pop Preperation
4. Pop Vanish
5. Run like hell
6. Laugh as the mage runs around confused.

Has happened to me more then once, saved my skin and my me feel like a cheating bastard too =D

Comentario de 10238

afaik vanish is still broken, and doesn't work as its supposed to work. i saw rogues on bg's being taken out of vanish on the very first second of vanish - millions of times. and my rogue friend says - pets still remove him from vanish.

Comentario de 55322

Here is a question... what happens when you use vanish if you do not learn stealth??

Note.. the ability doesn't say "Requires Stealth"

Comentario de 11336

Yup, the move is still busted.
-Dueled a mage and my vanish negated polymorph, but I didn't go into stealth
-Still getting auto attacked out of it and I have even auto attacked other rogues out of their vanish spells.

Comentario de Anarchy

Had a weird encounter the other day (on level 36 rogue), attacked an alliance flight guard with my thrown and the enraged gryphons charged towards me and before they hit me I vanished and both their attacks hit me for 1440 each so that is 2900 or so damage and I only have 1500 health so I should have died but the damage didn't go through, is this a normal occurance?

Comentario de daurenr

Gives 270 stealth level for 10 seconds as Vanish
Edit: Soz, 10 seconds not 3

Comentario de 164286

"Improved stealth mode" gives you +170 stealth rating, equivalent to 34 extra character levels. A vanished level 22 rogue, barring any other stealth modifiers, is effectively as stealthy as a level 56 rogue. Therefore, it's very good for escaping an angry town guard outside melee range or a player in a battleground. It probably won't get you away from a level 70 unless you use it before they spot you.

Comentario de Thottbot

rouge: pink/red colouring for your lips and cheek

rogue: class that will stab you in the back or sinister strike you to death :P

Comentario de Thottbot

Has this page helped anyone with the rogue's Vanish skill? Hmm, seems like it is just a bunch of pansies whining about Rogues. One could argue just as much that a mage's polymorph spell is ghetto, so just play the damn game. And rogues get ripped apart in mobs so this vanish spell is needed. Remember, we only get leather.

Comentario de Thottbot

In PvE it's an ass saver, I'll say that. If your healer is busy healing the tank, or you're soloing and don't have blind or cheapshot ready, vanish away so you don't have to run.

When you vanish, it has an icon in the corner with 10 secs under it, but after those 10 seconds are over, you stay in stealth. The vanish icon is replaced with stealth (at least I believe. I use vanish in PvP more that I do PvE and I attack immediatly after I vanish, so I haven't watched the upper corner for a while).

And please, spell it right... Rogue, not rouge.
Selinne-38druid
Roaen-27rogue
*insert many other alts here*

Comentario de Thottbot

Obviously you people who are against Rogues haven't played one. Rogues only wear leather, They don't always have a lot of health, The armor doesn't even help a lot. It's like saying "Well, how about we make warriors only wear cloth". It's *!@#ing stupid. I have a rogue and I have died many times trying to escape a battle because I have had about 5 guys on me. See, the somewhat description of a rogue is someone who lurks in the shadows, "Stealthy" Whoa now!...Stealthy....Vanish fits into that description really well. They need to be able to leave battle. They need to be Stealthy, they need to be able to lurk into the shadows...
If you want to take away Vanish then
Make warriors only be able to wear cloth
Take away every dot to every class
Why not just take away talents to everyone while we are at it?

Comentario de Thottbot

I'll bypass defending my rogue from all the trash talk for a quick question..
where the hell do I buy flash powder? I've checked every reagent vendor (someone in org told me they sell it) and none of them have it.

Comentario de Thottbot

OK! Let me make my self clear!
First I would answer the Question why rogues doesnt have any proper escaping abbilites.

So first they have sprint - u can hardly catch rogue while hes sprinting only if u have time to put some slow buff on him or u are lucky to get off combat mod quickelly and get epic mount (or normal if the rogue doesnt use one)

Second they have vanish - ofcourse its not that good at PvP because DoT can unstealth him. (and use vanish against hunter is bloody madness with his hunters mark, pet, DoTs.. etc) But still its not bad.

Third they can use Distract - many ppl dunno about it but when rogue use distract and then sprint its really nice escape combo :)

And the last but not least are many of his abbilities - like cheap shot or kidney shot, cripling poison etc. this really helps for escaping.

Over all I think rogue is probaly the best escape artist. If u compare it to other classes - Mage has frost nova and shield, but these abbilites are useless when slowing buff on him, warrior has hamstring, hunter has fake death (BTW: I dont know whats so cool on fake death in PvP, u guyz act like if rogues vanish was a lot worse - everything fake death do is that u lost targeting of the hunter and u need retarget, only few noobs playing WoW first day can think hes dead... Vanish also makes u lost the targeting but he can also move and not be seen and if u dont have any debuffs on him or u arent lucky with AoE u dont need to see the rogue anymore.)

BTW: Comparing hunter vs rogue is pretty useless. Everyones know that hunter is one of the most powerful clases against rogues, because rogue cant really stelth it would be worthless against hunter. Only way to harm hunter to have luck or to not be seen first stun him and chain stunning and dont let him slow u and go far away. because if he has hunters mark on u and gets far inaf to slow u by conc. shot then he can easily shot mass of all kinds of shots and kill u (+ high cat or dmg dealer pet really hlps)

To make my speech clear - I was playing for rogue (got lvl 30 gnome rogue) and now playing for hunter (now while I am writing this post I got 18 hunter and I helped kill lvl 47 elf rouge 5x in a row because I unstealthed him every time - no chance) also I got some warr 43, warlock 36 wtc but thats not important :)

Now stop moaning that rogue cant escape properly - hes one of the best escapers! and every class has some strong sides for egg hunters is on other side one of the best clasess to detect/unstealth rogues and catch runers (a LOT of detects and slowing stuff :)

Sry for spelling, have a nice day!

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If u see any of these ppl playing whisp them! :)

Baken - Twisting Nether
Holly, Marvincze - Emersiss
Marvincze - Khagdar

Comentario de Thottbot

First of all, this is a PvE post. While I love vanish to my heart and vanish did save me tons of times from the unnecessary trips to graveyard, I sometimes get really annoyed by those long-range spells, such as from a mob mage. When I was low on HP, I sometimes went to vanish to save myself only to find out some mage targeted me already and hit me when I was in vanish/stealth mode. This took me out of vanish/stealth immediately and pretty much guarantees a trip to graveyard.

Nothing is perfect. But shouldn't when a rogue vanish, mob mage lost the target and could not cast the spell anymore? But again, the mob mage did target me when I was not in vanish/stealth mode, even though I went into vanish mode while mob mage was casting.

I still love vanish.

Comentario de Thottbot

This is the BEST way to beat ANYONE (cept mages) at level 60.

Spec----Imp Kidney shot, imp cheap shot, prep, cold blood, imp evis, imp SS, and then get the move that gives you a 75% chance to get an extra combo point from the Sub talent tree.
--IMO-- You need swords to do this.

Cheap shot - 3 combo points (75% of the time)
SS- 4
Kidney shot (5 seconds at 60 with 4 combo points)
SSx2
Gouge (Wait until it has no time left)
Kidney shot (should have no CD since you got imp)
SSx2
Cold Blood
Evis

If the guy is not dead you either got horrible gear or they got awesome gear. I have a 60 gnome rogue with Maladath and CTS and this never fails.

Comentario de Thottbot

vanish can screw people if they don't know how to counter it...so instead of flaming learn to beat it!

vanish looks great on paper but any level 1 dot (or faerie fire from druids) will make vanish impossible

unless a rogue were to vanish, then cheapshot real quick before the dot could tick and bring them out of stealth. but that wouldn't work for faerie fire

Comentario de Thottbot

not to mentions hunters have detect stealth, flare, and hunter's mark

Comentario de Thottbot

*Cough* DoT *cough*

Most experienced classes know that if your facing a rogue, u need something like hunter's mark or a nice solid DoT so it's not incredible in PvP unless your against a class with none of those abilities...

Also it's pretty harsh in instances because you loose all aggro which means all the mobs that where on you probably go after the priest (not good)but it has it's uses if your solo PvE or if your with a warrior or pala, so the mobs just go after him (heh)

Also good for scouting i guess =)
It's one of the core parts of any rogue really

Comentario de Thottbot

Dot's Don't realy do much against a talented rogue, and I'm not saying this from a rogue standpoint. I have a 60 warlock and 60 druid, and am working on a 58 Rogue. I must tell you that a good rogue uses vanish not to re-stealth or to heal or to get a better position, but they use Vanish in one of two cases.

Number One: The Rogue vanishes while Close to the target EVEN with a Damage over Time spell active (dot) and procedes to QUICKLY use an opening move, (Usualy Cheap shot.) Since this is done so fast, the opposing player doesn't get a chance to watch his dot tick away Vanish.

Number Two: A rogue may vanish at a very strategic moment in enemy's casting, Such as but not limited to, A warlock casting fear, A mage casting Polymorph or Frostbolt, a druid casting Entangling roots, and other such impairing effects. The rogue would Run at the opposing player, wait until about half of the spell finished casting (1.5 seconds for polymorph for example.) and Quickly hits vanish. If done correctly, the spellcasting against you shall be broken, and you shall be right in front of your target, ready to do some slicin'. In hindsight, Vanish is realy not an ability that DOT'S interfere with.

PS: If you are in combat and you want to restealth do not use vanish. A simple but effective trick that I do mulitple times in combat, is Gouge followed by rapidly tapping the Z key. What this done is it takes you out of combat quicker, (Usualy before Gouge is finished with duration, and allows you to re-stealth. =) Very usefull trick that allows me to get 2 to 3 ambushes in on 1 target during one fight. Works wonders on Warriors especialy with crippling poison on your Weapon. Thank you for reading, Goodluck.

-Bawbb anetheron server level 60 warlock.

Comentario de Thottbot

If i use imp. Gouge, should i run away to be out of combat?

I think its the same if you stay thre or if you run away untill you are out of combat,is it right?

Comentario de Thottbot

LOL see soo many noobs argueing about vanish im a Human Warrior and yknow what REALLY owns vanish? perception rend helps but when ur fighting a rogue ur gonna spend most ur time backing up to reload ur 2h attack time..

Comentario de Thottbot

This move has 3 purposes:
1: reenter stealth in pvp to do another CS or ambush
2: Reenter stealth in pvp combat to escape from a fight
3: In pve, when u have accidentaly pulled a bunch of mabs, vanish and they will go away

I use several methods to get out of combat to restealth:
Crippling poison -> gouge -> run

Vanish

Blind

5 point KS and run

Comentario de Thottbot

Hunters are made for killing rogues. However it doesnt mean they always do. Every hunter i duel is dead if i get crippling poison on em especially if your marksman specced. But if you are a lower lvl rogue than the hunter the hunter will win that is assuming the hunter is not a nub 5 year old that wears cloth and fights with a lvl 1 gun. Also perception does not let you see a rogue in vanish bcuz they r in an improved stealth mode meaning completely invisible to anyone except higher lvl's.

Comentario de Thottbot

So you kill them with a crippling poison and poison 2. How much health do they have lol. you have never lost to a hunter huh? i call shananagins. I bet your one of those people who looses and then says "well i wasnt trying". Its okay that you loose everyone does from time to time

Comentario de Thottbot

ummmmm
1)isnt this sapoised to be about vanish?
2)who cares about losing... ya win some and ya lose some
3)to the guy way back you said do kidney shot then clood blood evis... last time i checked evis requires combo points and kidney does too so thats impossible
4)im guessing you guys are gonna wail on me so i'll say that i am -> Fudgems lvl 56 Troll Rogue on Darkspear
my armory link is
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkspear&n;=Fudgems

oh and way back the guy pressing Z...
that doesnt do anything gouge brings you out of combat... all depends on your stealth rank and cool down

Comentario de Thottbot

if you hate vanish/CoS, go roll a hunter or lock. i've yet to vanish and drop combat with a player's pet aggro.

oh, and bleed effects? smoke 'em, if you got 'em, guys. there's *nothing* we can do about them.

learn how rogues work, and THEN complain about them, plzkthx.

Comentario de Thottbot

Some enemies seem to be immune to Vanish...ive popped Vanish in PvP lots of times, without any DoTs on me, and they keep attacking me without losing stride.

Hunter pets and druids in animal form seem to be able to do this the most. Presumably their superior sense of smell helps them sniff a rogue out.

Comentario de Thottbot

If your fighting someone and then vanish can you sap them?

Comentario de Thottbot

I'm a hunter, and if I find a good rogue, I'm in for a tough fight. If he gets that opening shot off, I'm in trouble. A good rogue will generally keep me stunlocked until I have around 1-2/3 health left. And if crippling procs, then I have some trouble. However I love being MM for one reason in PVP; Scattershot. I scattershot, freezing trap, get a mark on them, stick a sting on them(either serpent or the less chance to hit one, depends on situation), mark em, and shoot away. If my scattershot or traps are on cooldown, yeeeeeeeeah. I will usually try to wingclip, pray his crippling doesn't proc soon, and get out of range. But a hunter is not a rogue killer, rogues still have some tricks up their sleeves as well. Its just that only the good ones know these tricks

Comentario de Thottbot

Is a Rouge related to Rogue? Where can you find rouges ive never seen one before? Do they live near the Rogues?

ROGUE

not

Rouge

Comentario de Thottbot

R - O - G - U - E.

ROGUE.

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R O G U E.

Comentario de Thottbot

I think some people had questioned, "What if a rogue leveled up to 22 without learning stealth, then learned vanish and used it?"

Well the answer is simple:
To learn Vanish from a rogue trainer requires the ability Stealth rank 1, which I'm not sure if they put on Thottbot, but I personally looked into this as the question had been bothering some of my guild mates, and now they know as do the rest of you who ever wondered.

You can't vanish if you don't have stealth.

Comentario de Thottbot

So, when the 10 seconds are up, are you still stealthed?

And do you leave combat with vanish?

Comentario de Thottbot

yeah, this is like a very nice rogue skill, w/ out it there is a big part of the meaning to rogue missing. the only downfall to it is if u use vanish at the exact time someone attacks you, it always brings me instantly out of vanish and i am no longer in stealth, it sucks

Comentario de Allakhazam

what's the cooldown on this one?

Comentario de Allakhazam

strange :S

Comentario de Allakhazam

This is one of the spells that'll change the game for you. It makes fighting mobs and instance situations much better. I love how it breaks combat and the enemy immediately loses sight of you. You will constantly find yourself as a Rogue being the last one standing with this one. Very awesome.

Comentario de Allakhazam

its awesome, but cooldown is to long cool down is like 5 mins. All the cool down for rogues suck.... im not saying a rogue sucks, cause im a rogue

Comentario de Allakhazam

this is awesome, but does it break combat?

Comentario de Allakhazam

Channelled spells are cancelled when a rogue vanishes.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Since the patch, i dont have the ability to use flash powder to vanish anymore, and furthermore I can not dump out of bag or set down into the tool bar either. any help on this would be greatly appreciated, thanks

Comentario de Allakhazam

this is the best spell ever no buts about it

Comentario de fateswarm

This is the best spell in the game.

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