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Comentario de Thottbot

"his dammage reduction was probably over 80%, and as the other post says, they can maintain agro"

What? No.

Comentario de Thottbot

There's a great damage reduction tool at:

http://www.worldofwar.net/guides/damagereduction.php

9400 armour would be about 63% damage reduction on a lvl 60 druid.

Comentario de Thottbot

On the subject of the druid bear healing during means he has an ability called, Frenzied Regeneration. The ability converts up to 10 rage per second into health for 10 seconds. each point of aggro is worth 20 hp.
In effect this means that the Bear can heal himself for 2k of damage in 10 seconds, he doesn't even need 100 aggro to do that!
And I have seen Druids with well above 10k in armor, makes a warrior with Might equipment look like a chicken.

Comentario de Thottbot

I thought this was to talk about the cloak and how to get it... not complain about who is right and who is wrong about the druid class. For god sakes just give it up and leave peopel to their own opinions.

Forum/Thread arguments are just senseless and time consuming.

Comentario de Thottbot

Don't get why you all care so much about this 2000 ac/3% dmg crap. the topic was about a cloak not who was a better tank. And pvp wise, druid/warrior makes no difference both die before the priests. That is all. Good bye.

Comentario de Thottbot

The pattern is bind on pick not the cloak itself ;)

Comentario de Thottbot

ok, druids can tank, but arent as good as, say, a tanking class, like a WARRIOR

Comentario de Thottbot

Hmm, people, calm down. Druid can tank, warrior can tank better. Druid can't block, warrior can. There is no good +defense leather items, but there is good +defense plate items.

But, druid _CAN_ and _WILL_ with good gear get more armor than warrior. This is not sad, it's fun to see druid tanking an instance.

Warrior will generate more agro with his abilities than a druid. Also, sunder armor reduces target's armor by 2000+, this will make the target weak, and melee classes can simply do more damage on it.

Our guild uses druids as tank in MC against some bosses(Garr for example). We have Ragnaros on farm status at this moment, and we let druid to tank him. 154 unbuffed fire resistance just wasn't enough. When our only druid, who's got 31 or more points in feral, will get 250 unbuffed fire resistance, we'll let him tank Ragnaros.

Comentario de Thottbot

Ok druids may not be the best tanks out there....but they can REALLY tank (plus my guild has a couple of dumbass warriors)
For example...today me (60 lock) a 60 druid 57 priest 60 warrior and a 60 rogue did a DM west run but right before the prince our warrior DCed. So we asked if the druid could tank and he said he'd try. And it went perfect. We 4 manned the prince with a druid tanking he did great so any1 that says druids can't tank.....i need to slap you:P

Comentario de Thottbot

Not one post giving a hint where to find pattern in DM. Just arguments about class vs class, as usual. Puuh!

Comentario de Thottbot

You can get the box of misc stuff from the Free Knot quest and still do a tribute run by killing the king first, then as you run your way back through collecting seriously cool buffs from the guards you complete the quest and collect whatever blue pattern is in there.

Comentario de Thottbot

Where: Contained in "Knot Thimblejack's Cache". This box will contain one rare leather or tailor pattern. Full list of possible patterns:

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=476347

This is the Goblin who also makes the "Ogre Suit", as part of a DM Tribute Run (DM North). Full strategy on a Tribute Run here:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Dire_Maul_Tribute_Run

Usually safest to complete the Tribute Run, and then return to the Goblin. All patterns on BindOnPickUp, so it's best for all leatherworkers and tailors to hang around the "cache". The key-holder can open the box, and group-link any patterns found within. Tailors roll on an tailor pattern, leatherworkers roll on leather, and winner re-opens the box (once unlocked) and loots.

Finally, on "THERE'S NO +DEF LEATHER GEAR" comments: technically true, but any flavor of gear (cloth, leather, mail or plate) can make use of Core Armor Kits (+3 DEF to head, chest, leg or feet). Since bear form doesn't multiply the effects of Armor Kits, a true Feral tank would perhaps benefit from replacing his Rugged Kits with Core Kits? Would be curious to test out the math comparisons between +40AC (Rugged Armor Kit) and +3 DEF (Core Armor Kit).

From Wowwiki again, there's this gem; shows the "damage mitigation" equivs for various stats IN BEAR FORM (without thick hide):

1 AGI = 12.5 Armor
1% Dodge = 250 Armor
1 +Def = 33.3 Armor

Based on that, +3DEF would equal 99.9 armor, or more than twice the boost of a rugged kit for damage mitigation. So, even though your actual AC numeric calue wouldn't show it, it's assumed that the actual amount of damage the bear is taking would be a lot less.

The full explanation of "+DEF" gear is here:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Defense

Naturally, all of this assumes you're in a guild that has extra Core Leathers, skinned exclusively from Core Hounds, a trash mob in Molten Core. Skinning the hounds requires a 315-skill skinner (300 base skill armed with Finkle's Skinner or Zulian Slicer plus +5 skinning glove enchant), and of course a group capable of farming MC. A full, one-sitting MC run will usually yield 15-20 Core Leathers; Core Hounds will respawn until Magmadar is killed. The tough part: most guilds have other uses for Core Leather, since they're used for AD Rep turn-ins and leather FireResist gear. Crafting Core Kits is usually a distant third on the list.

Hope that helps!

Comentario de Thottbot

Looking for someone who can make this on Whisperwind server. Haven't had luck so far. Have all the mats.

Comentario de Thottbot

And druids look cute in their bearform with all sound effects =)

*grrr*

Comentario de Allakhazam

Are u kidding me? has anyone really gotten this off of a rat? I dont think ive ever seen something drop off a rat...

Comentario de Allakhazam

I don't know about the Cloak of Warding, but I've killed tons of these while venturing around the world and let me tell you: they don't drop @#$%.

But one-shotting anything feels so damn good and makes you feel powerful. Like a hunter...almost.

Comentario de Allakhazam

rats dont have drops or loot tables.... unless theyre kobolts =D

Comentario de Allakhazam

This may also drop from Knot Thimblejack's Cache...I'll keep you posted.

Comentario de johnnno

wont be released until phase 2 of classic

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